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Valios
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Post: #11
RE: Exploitable?
For a next time you should hide their names in your exemplifications khaos, turning a personal discussion into something public can be offensive to some people and that's 100% understandable.
05-03-2012 09:32 AM
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Post: #12
RE: Exploitable?
It was meant to show someone that they are wrong. You don't ask me for help then pretty much laugh at me for finding a bug in the system you want me to give you help on. I will make it so the public sees the error as well and proves the point of error to that user even if it means name dropping. Remember. Naz and I were no different than each other in this sense. Everyone says they miss him, but how much does the community miss my older alter ego?
Pretty much it is comparable to him asking for help; just I did it before him to get a community concensus. Which by no means is wrong. It is no different. I explained his issue.

Big Grin
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05-03-2012 09:49 AM
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Post: #13
RE: Exploitable?
First of all I never said trolling doesn't happen. Obviously it happens all the time including right now. You just failed to see anything from any other point of view. To begin with, the event is suppose to be a game of chance and the purpose of the event is to let them pick which cell they think isn't going to get hit and killed. Now forcing them to any other cell other than the one they pick eliminates the overall purpose of the game. The players will never know when the cells will lock it may be 10 seconds or 40 seconds. You act as if the same two or ten or twenty people who want to harass another player over winning a reward will make it to the very end, very unlikely. This is an event that is suppose to be for fun, "shits n giggles". This isn't a 1v1 Duel where players get important rewards or ranked into a ranking system or anything like that. So if no one wins at the end and all players end up dead so be it. I've seen this game played 100's of times and the issues you think are issues dont happen because of server latency and not knowing when the cells will close. Yes I understand you're point even though you fail to understand mine. Yes, one player can try to harass the last player but that should be something the last two should try and figure out. <I felt like backspacing all of this because in the long run I honestly don't give a shit and its a huge waist of my time AND what any other person thinks when it comes to my shard> So the best reply should as always will be .emote *Farts* I have a feeling this isn't the first time khaos has went to the forum to ask his friends to help him prove his egotistical point of view or started some pointless thread to waist peoples time.
P.S When someone asks for help you give them help with what they ask for not try to change their views and once they don't convert to your views run to the forums and cry LOOK I TOLD YOU I WAS RIGHT! SEE! SEE!
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05-03-2012 10:01 AM
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Post: #14
RE: Exploitable?
Actually, this is the first time. How about this? You have a fucking issue, ask someone else. Hence me posting this in my section so I can berate your ungrateful ass if you spoke out harshly. Even as a dev I have no obligation to help you understand the code much less how to code. You asked. You got the detailed answer. You also got the detailed issues and the fix. Now quit being naive. FIX YOUR SHIT OR PEOPLE WONT PLAY YOUR SERVER Big Grin

You cant grasp the simple point of 1, 10, 20 people RUINING the fun for others. I guess that is what separates the vets from the normal scripters. Not to bash anyone learning. If you aren't willing to learn then you need to stop scripting. It is a learning environment as is learning to make your code unexploitable.

As for your POV. You didn't even know how to script it. Hence asking me. Oh... thats right I keep forgetting... you own your server. You have to be right. I assume your the next Spike of Sphere...

Spike (No longer with the community for several years) : "[itemdef dragon_shroud], [chardef dragon_shroud]; why won't my code work for either?"

Me: "Because they use the same declaration"

Spile "I don't believe you. You are wrong"

Me: "Okay. Ask on the forums"

Spike then asks on forums and gets told the same thing a bit more harshly by Naz. Funny. He then came running back to me and asked for my help again. He got my sincerest reply of "Fuck yourself".
We all make mistakes. Hell, I've admited to a ton on the other forums when I started. I also didn't doubt what a veteran or dev told me. I never once thought twice to question someone active who implemented several huge systems and understood the code and the PROCESS OF SCRIPTING/PROGRAMMING.

Which is what my explaination came down. The process of scripting. How to do it. Each step. What issues will be had. How to fix them.
(This post was last modified: 05-03-2012 11:12 AM by Khaos.)
05-03-2012 11:08 AM
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Post: #15
RE: Exploitable?
.emote "Farts"
05-03-2012 11:14 AM
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Post: #16
RE: Exploitable?
Real mature. -_-
05-03-2012 11:20 AM
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Post: #17
RE: Exploitable?
Haha epic method to conclude the discussion, Reflex wins!
05-03-2012 12:19 PM
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Post: #18
RE: Exploitable?
Wins with immaturity. Yay for him?!
05-03-2012 12:19 PM
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Post: #19
RE: Exploitable?
I'm kinda with Valios here, if only for sake of keeping things professional.

In any case I have to say, Murphy's Law always applies to griefing. If they can, they will. If you have complete control over who plays on the shard, that's fine. But I play the Dr Who MMO and for about two weeks we could use our free Chronons (game points for missions) to pay for friends. It was supposed to make the game more social. They had to pull it because people would make dozens of free mule characters just to boost their main one's quest progress... and there are missions that don't even cost Chronons to play. Not many people did this, but it was enough.

Likewise, this is why there's a wait on deleting chars. So you can't just spam newbie gold to the ground by recycling the slot and empty the new char's inventory.
05-03-2012 12:21 PM
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Post: #20
RE: Exploitable?
I'd give up on explaining the 'errors' he is going to make. He won't listen to rationality. 'Fun' is what he sees, but not what the griefed players will see.
05-03-2012 12:52 PM
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