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ROOMDEF Flags - Rizz - 04-23-2013 07:40 AM

I found this page on wiki:

http://wiki.sphere.torfo.org/index.php/ROOMDEF

I tried to set the flags for a ROOMDEF but flags and other keys don't work.
Triggers too.
Is that a bug?

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - RanXerox - 04-23-2013 08:34 AM

I think a ROOMDEF doesn't have EVENTS, and therefore doesn't have triggers. FLAGS should work though.

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - Rizz - 04-23-2013 09:08 AM

(04-23-2013 08:34 AM)RanXerox Wrote:  I think a ROOMDEF doesn't have EVENTS, and therefore doesn't have triggers. FLAGS should work though.

Flags don't work, i tried the numeric and defname ways.

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - RanXerox - 04-23-2013 09:14 AM

What exact sphereserver version are you using? Also, show me your roomdef that does not work.
Nevermind, I tried a few experiments... FLAGS in ROOMDEFS are not used.

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - Rizz - 04-23-2013 09:40 AM

This is the region.

Code:
[ROOMDEF a_casa_2_ls]
NAME=Inn
GROUP=Lake Shire
FLAGS=REGION_FLAG_NOBUILDING|REGION_FLAG_UNDERGROUND|region_antimagic_gate|regio​n_antimagic_teleport|region_antimagic_recall_in|region_flag_no_pvp|region_flag_s​afe|region_flag_nodecay|region_antimagic_all
P=1228,1173,-25,2
RECT=1216,1170,1231,1183,2

My sphere version:

Code:
Sphere Version 0.56b-Nightly [WIN32] by www.sphereserver.com, compiled at Dec 17 2012 (00:05:12), internal build #1552
So the wiki is wrong?

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - RanXerox - 04-23-2013 11:20 AM

I am not certain... the code logic is complex... The wiki may be partially correct, but missing some facts.

I suspect that FLAGS (and other things) in areadefs (or roomdefs) that are nested, are discarded:

Code:
+---------------------+
| areadef A           |
|  +----------------+ |
|  | roomdef B      | |
|  |                | |
|  +----------------+ |
+---------------------+

I think when flags are computed for the roomdef B, they are dropped because it is entirely within areadef A...

Code:
+---------------------+
| areadef A           |
|       +----------------+
|       | roomdef B      |
|       |                |
|       +----------------+
|                     |
+---------------------+
In the above example, they might work... can you test it?

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - Extreme - 04-23-2013 11:48 AM

(04-23-2013 09:40 AM)Rizz Wrote:  So the wiki is wrong?
Yes, and I've reported on bugtracker about events on roomdef...
Ben was roughly clear that it don't have events.

But they don't want to fix the wiki...
I think ROOMDEF could have EVENTS, because if you create a new AREADEF, you will need to set FLAGS and EVENTS.
So ROOMDEF would get flags of AREADEF where is it and you could set only EVENTS.

So no need to put FLAGS on all ROOMDEF.
If you need Flags, use AREADEF, if you need just EVENTS should use ROOMDEF.

Thats my opinion.
Code:
+---------------------+
| areadef A           |
|  +----------------+ |
|  | roomdef B      | |
|  | event +r_test  | |
|  +----------------+ |
+---------------------+
Where r_test gives skillgain bonus for the player who enters and keeps using the same flags from areadef, that is better than create the room as areadef and give the same flags.

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - Rizz - 04-23-2013 08:45 PM

In my opinion, roomdefs should replace areadefs flags. If i have a big city and i need to change the flags for just a room... why create another areadef over an existant areadef?

RE: ROOMDEF Flags - Mordaunt - 04-24-2013 01:31 AM

You should ALWAYS be subject to events from top level areas, but areas with in areas should imo allow additional events to be added or existing ones modified. The subject of events on roomdefs is not one I will get into since I never use them anway, but should they exist or be modified to exist then those events should also be aditional to (or be modifying) events added by the area the room is in.

Just my 2 cents....
All academic if roomdefs can't have events anyway